aptera.solar Event Samstag 4. Mai // Saturday May 4th, 2024

==> ENGLISH VERSION

As we are meeting at our company premises, there are 10 private and 2 public EV chargers. Of course the litte zip for our EVs will be free of charge (on the 10 own chargers).

We build the 10 own chargers in spring of 2022. Here's some impression about their construction: Kurzvideo über den Bau

==> GERMAN VERSION

Da wir uns auf unserem Firmengelände treffen, haben wir für alle, die mit einem E-Auto anreisen 10 eigene und 2 öffentliche Ladepunkte.

Die eigenen Ladepunkte haben wir im Frühjahr 2022 gebaut. Sind also fertig

Kurzvideo über den Bau

Wir freuen uns, Eure Fahrzeuge mit Solarstrom zu versorgen. Der Snack für die Fahrzeuge ist natürlich gratis ....

Thank you for organising the event and thanks again for setting this whole Apter.solar thing up. I hope the numbers of participants grows.

I found valuable information recently from your journey to Paris, the most recent interview series from AOC (part one) and a kind of extended factory tour with "KardiaMobile" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvma9paBrh8 - I know we heard most of it before but Chris Anthony elaborates here and there more specific about funding, tooling, bottlenecks, Apple CarPlay etc. … . Recommend.

So I think it's safe to say we will NOT see a PI build Aptera in Fulda in May as tools for the frame or interior have not been made yet. Steve Frambo expects such a mocked up PI build in the timeframe June / July at the earliest - and that sounded rather optimistic to my ears.

But still: thoses infos and sleek body parts in Paris kind of encourage me and made me think of what I would ask Chris if he or a representative would attend the Fulda event.

As I still believe that the Aptera was designed from a more Californian perspective and as I live in Hamburg city; I would ask or discuss European focussed practical questions:

• Lane or parallel parking: considering Apteras geometry and low ground clearance of its external and long wheel pods - how short can a parallel parking spot be to navigate safe in parking position without touching the sidewalk? And how close can I get?

Update: there have been a video from Aptera covering this topic on

• Driving on an unlit country road: will the wheel pods be visible for approaching traffic? As the US version Aptera is classified as motorcycle with a centered headlight would it be beneficial or a EU requirement having positioning lights on the wheel pods for better visibility?

• Imagining a tour over the alps in winter - maybe when collecting an Aptera in Modena - could we? How would the Aptera cope with that journey, gradients and power consumption of traditional HVAC?

• Entering the flatbed for camping: do we really need to carry a step ladder and climb into the hatch; would it be comfy enough to enter through front doors? My dog certainly would be capable and prefer doing that.

• Then, what I think what could help with adoption of the Aptera in general is to change the wording from solar powered car to "Ultra Efficient Vehicle - UEV". When I first saw Aptera- it must have been electrec website - I thought it was another stripped down car project for the Australian solar race but not a regular car. Stressing the efficiency by using the term UEV or UEEV would lead to a better conception. From a google search I find UEV is currently rarely used for "Universal Electric Vehicle".

Congratulations for your good jobs and efforts in putting together a Euro-centric Aptera Group and site. I would want to address two issues:

1). Is it possible for all European Accelerators to form an Aptera subgroup which will have the aim of organising a joint importation of our Apterae to the EU once they are produced? This would be include taking all the necessary steps to secure exemptions from all homologation requirements where such exemptions are are permitted by the law.

2). I would suggest that all European Aptera investors, reservation holders, and fans, make an official request to Aptera Motors to arrange an organised tour of CPC for us to see first hand the Aptera PI build once it is completed, before it is shipped to the US.

Thanking you all for your attention.

Ambassador Group

The first bullet of my post referred to creating an Accelerators subgroup, not an Ambassadors subgroup as captioned above. I am not sure if that was what you meant to say. I am assuming that was what you wanted to say. In any case, the idea of forming forming an Aptera Ambassador's European subgroup really sounds great to me if such a group doesn't exist yet. I would be glad to play a leading role in such a group if there is need. That will certainly be a good place to discuss issues of all kinds especially since the Ambassadors have a somewhat more direct access to the Aptera management.

Tour of CPC

I am not sure I understood what you meant by that "mass mailing Aptera asking for a tour of CPC would rather hurt our relations with them." Why would such a move hurt? Of course I didn't say mass mailing them, as in all of us sending individual mails, but our sending them an official mail on behalf of the group petitioning them politely for such a visit. If, for whatever reasons, such a visit is not advisable, they can just reject it as politely as we requested it. No qualms, no harm! Why should such a request hurt our relationship with them?

As regards CPC's confidentiality problem, of course we are aware of that. By the way, we will not be making a tour of their facility, but strictly of Aptera BinC. We can sign any non-disclosure agreement they want. Even Aptera themselves may require such an agreement from us since they too may have things they mightn't want us to disclose to the public. So, I believe we can still discuss this issue. I am even planning to request such a visit as an individual from Aptera since I am only a hop across the Adriatic sea to Modena, Italy, from Patras, Greece, where I reside. But I feel that asking as an official group gives us greater chance of success. Anyway, thank you for your detailed reply.

Looking forward to more deliberations on these and other issues.

Ich wünsche mir noch folgende Punkte die sicher noch diskutiert werden müssen.

• Vereinfachung der Homologation beziehungsweise der Zulassung von Erstfahrzeugen Launch Edition, zeitlich und kosten dezimierend auf einen Zehntel. Das muss/darf Nicht sein das der Amtsschimmel absichtlich diese Kosten so hoch treibt, das ist auf keinesfalls förderlich, ehr im Gegenteil, ich wünsche mir das man auch für die Lounch Edition eine vereinfachte Zulassung in gesamt Europa bekommt.
• wie zeigt Aptera von aussen das ich noch am Laden bin, ich habe noch 10/15 Minuten zum Laden bis 80/100%? Damit der nächste sehen kann wann die Ladestationen frei wird?
• Ich könnte mir ein grünes lichtband vorne vorstellen ähnlich dem Rivian. Modellen.

I would like to see the following points, which will certainly still need to be discussed.

- Simplification of homologation or registration of first vehicles Launch Edition, reducing time and costs by a tenth. It must not be the case that the bureaucracy deliberately drives up these costs, that is not helpful at all, quite the opposite, I would like to see simplified registration for the Launch Edition throughout Europe.

- How does Aptera show from the outside that I am still charging, for example, I still have 10/15 minutes to charge to 80/100%? So that the next person can see when the charging station is free?

- I could imagine a green light strip at the front, similar to the Rivian models.

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Ich wünsche mir noch folgende Punkte die sicher noch diskutiert werden müssen.

• Vereinfachung der Homologation beziehungsweise der Zulassung von Erstfahrzeugen Launch Edition, zeitlich und kosten dezimierend auf einen Zehntel. Das muss/darf Nicht sein das der Amtsschimmel absichtlich diese Kosten so hoch treibt, das ist auf keinesfalls förderlich, ehr im Gegenteil, ich wünsche mir das man auch für die Lounch Edition eine vereinfachte Zulassung in gesamt Europa bekommt.
• wie zeigt Aptera von aussen das ich noch am Laden bin, ich habe noch 10/15 Minuten zum Laden bis 80/100%? Damit der nächste sehen kann wann die Ladestationen frei wird?
• Ich könnte mir ein grünes lichtband vorne vorstellen ähnlich dem Rivian. Modellen.

I would like to see the following points, which will certainly still need to be discussed.

- Simplification of homologation or registration of first vehicles Launch Edition, reducing time and costs by a tenth. It must not be the case that the bureaucracy deliberately drives up these costs, that is not helpful at all, quite the opposite, I would like to see simplified registration for the Launch Edition throughout Europe.

- How does Aptera show from the outside that I am still charging, for example, I still have 10/15 minutes to charge to 80/100%? So that the next person can see when the charging station is free?

- I could imagine a green light strip at the front, similar to the Rivian models.

Merlin681

"How does Aptera show from the outside that I am still charging, for example, I still have 10/15 minutes to charge to 80/100%? So that the next person can see when the charging station is free?"

I think it has been suggested that the Go Glow Aptera badge by the side pillars could serve that role.

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• Haustiere dürfen gerne nach Fulda mitgebracht werden

Hey, danke, dass ihr die Möglichkeit in Betracht gezogen habt und das anbieten konntet. Ich werde ihn dennoch nicht mitnehmen. Ich denke das ist besser. Bis bald dann in Fulda.

Hello ALL!

Is there anything new on the May 4th meeting in Fulda, like details of the meetings, agenda, time, attendees, etc.? Are there arrangements for guests coming from all over Europe, like lodging (affordable hotels for those of us who have to sleep over before departure), feeding, etc. I personally will be driving over from Greece and would want some help in lodging arrangements for two nights. Thanks.

Hi dimchild, the first entry of this thread had been amended. In case you missed that, it now states:

The timing for Saturday May 4th, 2024 (all CET)

• From 1 pm in Fulda, on-site
• 3 pm online meeting in German
• 5 pm online meeting in English

About a month ago I received a registration link, made on google forms – I hope it is still active. If so, maybe one of the admins should add the registration link to this thread. It included questions of number of participants and meal preferences.

Regarding lodging, I personally found an Airbnb close by. The event is 10 minutes drive from the city centre of Fulda.

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Hi dimchild, the first entry of this thread had been amended. In case you missed that, it now states:

Yes, I am duly registered for the event and have completed all necessary requirements. My problem is mainly accommodation and feeding. How much is the Airbnb you found? Is there further accommodation there that I can use? Thanks for your response.

Thanks e-economy for the info. I will check out the recommended hotels.

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==> GERMAN VERSION

Hallo an Alle,

die Agenda der Online Session wurde oben im ersten angepinten Beitrag ergänzt. In Kürze wird ein Flyer (pdf) mit allen Informationen veröffentlicht, den ihr ausdrucken könnt.

Lasst uns eure Fragen wissen, die Ihr in der Online Session diskutieren möchtet.

Danke und bis bald, euer aptera.solar Kernteam

==> ENGLISH VERSION

Hi All,

the agenda for the online sessions has been defined and updated in the first post of this thread. Soon we will publish a flyer (pdf) with all infos which you may print out.

Let us know the questions you would like to discuss during the online meetings.

Thanks and until soon, your aptera.solar Core Team

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Where is the thread where you have the updated information of the meeting? I couldn't find it. If you are referring to the one you had several months ago, I have seen that one.